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Author Topic: Cycle News 2015 Zero review article  (Read 1283 times)

Richard230

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Cycle News 2015 Zero review article
« on: March 27, 2015, 09:11:39 PM »

Here is a link to a long ride review article by Cycle News of the 2015 Zeros.  Be sure to read the "sidebar" on page 55.  It would appear that most of the major parts on the Zero are made by various Chinese companies. (The Z-Force motor is made by a company called "Broad Ocean", as an example   ???  )

http://cyclenews.uberflip.com/i/464773-cycle-news-2015-issue-7-february-18/48
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Re: Cycle News 2015 Zero review article
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2015, 12:04:50 AM »

The author screwed up on two fronts

1. CHAdeMO is not offered on the '15's
2. The BMW i3 uses CCS not CHAdeMO

That also filters back to a bullet point made on the same page, charging zero to almost full in about an hour.
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Re: Cycle News 2015 Zero review article
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2015, 09:46:47 AM »

Also "The DS and S come with two motor battery options : a ZF9.4kW and ZF12.5"
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Richard230

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Re: Cycle News 2015 Zero review article
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2015, 08:11:50 PM »

Picky, picky.   ;)
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Re: Cycle News 2015 Zero review article
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2015, 12:01:00 AM »

Seems like a positive review to me.
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Re: Cycle News 2015 Zero review article
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2015, 08:24:53 PM »

Seems like a positive review to me.

It is a positive review, but it's positive in a way that is wrong-headed.  Zero will have to explain to everyone that wants to buy one, uh, no, we don't support CHAdeMO, uh no, you can't charge it less than an hour.  For everyone that doesn't calculate exactly how much charge they need to get to the same place and back every day, this is a big problem and may be the thing holding them back from going electric.  People jumping in before the technology is ready can have a negative impact on perception for an entire class of vehicles.
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Re: Cycle News 2015 Zero review article
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2015, 02:12:02 AM »

But still a positive review. I can't imagine that people will buy a Zero based on one review. But a positive review will encourage them to explore further.
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Re: Cycle News 2015 Zero review article
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2015, 04:14:49 AM »

I get asked about my Zero S all the time. The issues keeping riders out of the market are  range, cost, and charging time and convenience. I guess those are big issues that are not going away any time soon though. I don't think adding more battery capacity which adds more weight and cost is a solution either, or at least not a good solution. We need better batteries. I think the vast majority of potential buyers would want to charge at home or at work using "free" existing wiring.
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