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Author Topic: Zero SRF/S better mode than sport mode?  (Read 1889 times)

GeneralSP

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Zero SRF/S better mode than sport mode?
« on: July 30, 2020, 07:08:20 PM »

Hi guys, I read here and other website, with SRF or S it is possible to have more performance than sport mode. I read, Beast Mode, this is real or just in their head?

When I check with the Android Zero App, I see on the sport mode it is already to max setting exept regeneration.   ???
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Re: Zero SRF/S better mode than sport mode?
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2020, 07:21:09 PM »

You can program custom modes and have 1 loaded in the bike.  I think a lot of people just name it beast mode, and then set the power to 100%.
Thats more or less how I have my custom mode set.
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Re: Zero SRF/S better mode than sport mode?
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2020, 08:45:44 PM »

You can program custom modes and have 1 loaded in the bike.  I think a lot of people just name it beast mode, and then set the power to 100%.
Thats more or less how I have my custom mode set.

You mean just the power slider moved to 100% and the other ones left at 0%?
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Re: Zero SRF/S better mode than sport mode?
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2020, 08:49:25 PM »

No you'd want both power and torque set to 100 %.

And you can name that custom mode so some just call it that.

Sport has both values maxed out so no more is possible. See added screenshot.

« Last Edit: July 30, 2020, 08:52:21 PM by Hans2183 »
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Re: Zero SRF/S better mode than sport mode?
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2020, 09:43:45 PM »

Ok, mean, The famous beast mode is just a legend. Sport mode is already at maximum.
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Re: Zero SRF/S better mode than sport mode?
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2020, 11:06:52 PM »

You can program custom modes and have 1 loaded in the bike.  I think a lot of people just name it beast mode, and then set the power to 100%.
Thats more or less how I have my custom mode set.

You mean just the power slider moved to 100% and the other ones left at 0%?

I think you know what I meant.  Why would anyone set the power to 100% and the torque to zero?
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Re: Zero SRF/S better mode than sport mode?
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2020, 11:20:18 PM »

What would even happen if you did that, or set it to 100% torque and 0% power? Having them separate doesn't really make sense, with the older models you set the torque and then it uses however much power it needs to get to that amount of torque. I can't think of any reason why you'd ever want to limit power when it's the torque that can cause issues (losing traction or pulling a wheelie).
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Re: Zero SRF/S better mode than sport mode?
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2020, 11:32:03 PM »

Torque is instant acceleration, is power like the old top speed?

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Re: Zero SRF/S better mode than sport mode?
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2020, 12:15:24 AM »

That would have been my guess too (that it's to act as a speed limiter) but there's still a speed limit slider in the app.
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Re: Zero SRF/S better mode than sport mode?
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2020, 12:52:15 AM »

Based on my experiments the first rides (never changed it afterwards)

Torque: how fast you get away from stop or from rolling if you pin throttle
Power: how long that fast get away lasts when you gain speed
Max speed: is literally that, it doesn't let you go beyond that speed (unless maybe on downhill)
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Re: Zero SRF/S better mode than sport mode?
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2020, 01:11:33 AM »

Based on my experiments the first rides (never changed it afterwards)

Torque: how fast you get away from stop or from rolling if you pin throttle
Power: how long that fast get away lasts when you gain speed
Max speed: is literally that, it doesn't let you go beyond that speed (unless maybe on downhill)
I know what they mean, I just don't get why anyone would ever want less than max available power. How much power is needed to produce a certain amount of torque changes with speed and incline, so by having less than 100% power available you could end up in a situation where you can't get to the torque limit, either by climbing a hill or reaching a certain speed.
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Re: Zero SRF/S better mode than sport mode?
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2020, 01:22:18 AM »

Maybe power is like the variable that gets tamped down when the battery is near exhaustion.

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Re: Zero SRF/S better mode than sport mode?
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2020, 02:33:42 AM »

Torque x rev = power
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Re: Zero SRF/S better mode than sport mode?
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2020, 03:36:25 AM »

Torque x rev = power
Exactly, so if you limit power you limit torque at higher speeds or reduce speed when higher torque is required.
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Re: Zero SRF/S better mode than sport mode?
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2020, 05:19:08 PM »

Just gong back to the OP question - is it possible to get more power than SPORT, I think not only is it no because it's already at max torque and power but also I find my custom mode with 100% torque and power Has less acceleration than the factory sport mode. 
I only don't like the factory sport mode due to the high neutral regen.  Shame we can't adjust factory modes.  🙄
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