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Author Topic: My 2020 FX Is a Lemon - Inherent Defects  (Read 2246 times)

AutoE

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Re: My 2020 FX Is a Lemon - Inherent Defects
« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2020, 09:59:06 PM »

That's the point of AutoE's posts, to scare you.

Eccelerate seems to just kill bikes so I'm not sure how to judge that.  If their experience was more common we'd probably have alot more threads like this.

-Crissa
If you wish to be scared do your own research. Perhaps Crissa might explain why is it with less than 1000 annual sales in the lower 48, there are routinely over 25 Zero's to be found in salvage auctions?
Israelis rarely post as they lack English skills and many fear diminishing the value of their vehicles. 
FuN FaCTs the battery replacement rate in Israel is over 80%. The S/DS charger replacement rate in Israel is over 60%.
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princec

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Re: My 2020 FX Is a Lemon - Inherent Defects
« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2020, 10:32:39 PM »

You know, the big issue with the Zeros, and EVs in general, is that there is much made of the incredibly small number of "moving parts"... (BMS, charger, battery, motor) but unfortunately these parts are not especially reliable or rugged, and when a small bit of one of those parts malfunctions, it usually requires replacing the entire unit, at a four figure cost.

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TheRan

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Re: My 2020 FX Is a Lemon - Inherent Defects
« Reply #32 on: August 28, 2020, 10:51:21 PM »

That's the point of AutoE's posts, to scare you.

Eccelerate seems to just kill bikes so I'm not sure how to judge that.  If their experience was more common we'd probably have alot more threads like this.

-Crissa
If you wish to be scared do your own research. Perhaps Crissa might explain why is it with less than 1000 annual sales in the lower 48, there are routinely over 25 Zero's to be found in salvage auctions?
I suppose doing our own research is the only option as you refuse to provide any proof yourself. There are currently 2 Zeros on IAA, a 2014 and a 2018. Both are on there due to collision damage, unsurprisingly this is a common reason for motorcycles to go to salvage. Pretty sure all of the 4 or 5 bikes that Rich Rebuilds salvage had crash damage and they weren't particularly new bikes either.
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Richard230

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Re: My 2020 FX Is a Lemon - Inherent Defects
« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2020, 04:16:58 AM »

I have owned three Zeros, a 2012, 2014 and 2018. Other than an on-board charger failure on both the 2014 and 2018, I have had absolutely no problems with my Zeros.
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Richard's motorcycle collection:  2018 16.6 kWh Zero S, 2009 BMW F650GS, 2020 KTM 390 Duke, 2002 Yamaha FZ1 (FZS1000N) and a 1978 Honda Kick 'N Go Senior.

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Re: My 2020 FX Is a Lemon - Inherent Defects
« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2020, 06:17:55 AM »

Obviously I have no more proof than AutoE, but the most common things I replace by a long shot are chargers, DCDCs, a few BMSes, and a few batteries. Most of the batteries are old and are usually replaced under warranty.

No way it's anywhere near the percentages he stated.
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