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Author Topic: SRF Sidestand drop  (Read 1024 times)

petewarm

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SRF Sidestand drop
« on: August 01, 2020, 03:42:14 AM »

Aagh!  just dropped my SRF when parked.

Sidestand collapsed up, was pointing slightly downhill. Wont do that again.

When I first got the bike i did almost the almost the same thing: parked the bike on the level, leaned on it, it moved just enough forward to drop over. Cost me a new 12V battery.

I suspect Im going to refettle the sidestand slightly, but before I do, anyone else had this issue? cant remember any of my other bikes having this problem.  Would be grateful if any SRF owner would measure their sidestand distance forward of the hinge to the centre of the stand on the ground (whilst on the level)

thank you!
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Re: SRF Sidestand drop
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2020, 03:47:40 AM »

I've nearly done this with an SR and with my SR/S. It's concerned me enough that I pull the bike back from the handlebar as soon as I'm off, even if slightly uphill.
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Re: SRF Sidestand drop
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2020, 04:04:33 AM »

I also give the bike a tug backwards. I have a velcro strap in my tank that I can use to secure the front brake should I need to park on an incline, or you can use a doohickey like this instead: https://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=101964&sku=MG400193010&description=Ariete+Brake+Lever+Lock+%28ex+Zero+%2310%2D07562%29

Zero also makes a parking brake for the older models, it doesn't appear they make one for the SR/F/S though: https://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=95754&sku=ZM10-08131&description=Zero+MC%27s+Parking+Brake+Kit+%2D+ZM10%2D08131
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Re: SRF Sidestand drop
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2020, 04:05:32 AM »

I learned that lesson with my first electric motorcycle, a 2009 Electric Motorsport GPR-S. I now always carry a strip of Velcro strap to wrap around the front brake lever if I really have to park facing downhill, or even on a steep uphill slope.
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Re: SRF Sidestand drop
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2020, 04:41:52 AM »

I saw a reviewer drop an SR/F that way.

So far I've only dropped it on a hill not because I was using the stand but because I slipped.

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Re: SRF Sidestand drop
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2020, 01:06:55 PM »

I did that to my BMW's but net yet to my SRF (touching wood). Also check the handbrake options cause that will prevent these kind of glides.
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Re: SRF Sidestand drop
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2020, 04:37:29 PM »

I've done it twice, about a year apart (the first week I owned my SR/F, and two weeks ago).  Both times I was on a small decline and did not notice until it was too late.  Luckily in both cases no damage.  I have one of the Zero "Parking Brake" straps that I normally use if I notice a decline, but did not notice this time.  It sure happens fast!

The first time I was able to get the bike up by myself (pavement), but this time I could not (dirt driveway).  Between my son and I we got it up though.  It seems the stand collapses a bit to easily to me.

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Re: SRF Sidestand drop
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2020, 11:27:21 PM »

I bought a bag of 50 of these 6" bungee balls from amazon for $13.88
I keep one wrapped around the reservoir.
Wrapping it around the brake handle acts as a parking brake.
Test the hold.  You might have to wrap tighter to get it to hold confidently on the incline you are on.
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Re: SRF Sidestand drop
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2020, 01:42:32 AM »

Oh!  That's a sweet idea.  Thanks, vince.

I'm going to look for my ball-bungees now ^-^  I have like a hundred some of these suckers for my camping structures.

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Re: SRF Sidestand drop
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2020, 03:13:30 AM »

I went out and measured the distance the stand foot ended up in front of the it's pivot.  I make it around 30mm. see pic.


I'm going to increase it to around 50mm, even though the bike will lean a tiny bit more.

Thanks for the brake idea, that would work.
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Re: SRF Sidestand drop
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2020, 01:15:23 PM »

Out of curiosity; is that rust on your side stand? Your bike can't be older than a year right? How is that possible?

About the sidestand kicking back; you would have to both increase length of the stand and move up the forward stop so it can go further and keep the same lean angle. Looking at the assembly on my own SRF I think the 2 big bolts keep it in place so it's safe to modify without wrecking any frame related parts. You could try grinding a bit of material from the forward stop section.

However not sure if that's wort it. I'm parking on slopes a lot myself and I've dropped 2 previous bikes already this way. One of them being a GS having quite a big stand.
« Last Edit: August 10, 2020, 01:22:56 PM by Hans2183 »
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Re: SRF Sidestand drop
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2020, 12:01:43 AM »

Out of curiosity; is that rust on your side stand?
I have a similar amount of rust on my SR/F.
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Re: SRF Sidestand drop
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2020, 01:30:55 AM »

Out of curiosity; is that rust on your side stand?
I have a similar amount of rust on my SR/F.

Me too, and it's hardly ever outside unless I'm riding it...

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Re: SRF Sidestand drop
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2020, 11:49:30 PM »

Oh Ok.. Just checked mine and indeed it's a bit rusty also. Didn't expect this



This is mine since 22 Aug 2019 so just short of a year. Used daily up to March when lockdown was applied. Did 11.000 km in all weather since then. Not much washing since it doesn't like that. Oh and even a month around January, so right in winter period, that it was out due to issues. When not used it's in a garage either at home or work.
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Re: SRF Sidestand drop
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2020, 01:57:49 AM »

The black iron looks like it's supposed to rust, to my eye.

Nit that you want it to, but that it's expected.

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