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Richard230

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2025 Stark Varg EX and SM first look
« on: March 11, 2025, 07:22:20 PM »

Stark is bringing their DOT-approved Varg SM street bike and Varg EX enduro to the U.S. market. Here is the story: https://www.motorcycle.com/bikes/new-model-preview/2025-stark-varg-ex-and-sm-coming-to-us-market-44618905

Is that a 360V motor that I am seeing in the specifications or does that mean something else, like that the motor turns 360 degrees when running?  ::) Or does that indicate that the bike's electrical system operates at 360 volts?
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Fran K

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Re: 2025 Stark Varg EX and SM first look
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2025, 09:11:17 PM »

100 in series, 4 parallel 400 2170 cells 360 volts nominal

I hope they make a more sit down not motocross/supercross or even real enduro like have entered type of motorcycle.

Kaplan is not far from me and is a dealer, and has a youtube channel.
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Curt

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Re: 2025 Stark Varg EX and SM first look
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2025, 12:44:44 AM »

Stark is bringing their DOT-approved Varg SM street bike and Varg EX enduro to the U.S. market.

Wow. And the Motor Cafe web site hints that they'll be a dealer.

I can see an EX replacing my Zero FX. The Zero has stagnated for 8 years, and they're now made cheaply in Asia, and my local dealer SJ BMW is no longer dealing.

The EX would have similar kWh with much faster kW in and kW out. It would be slightly lighter and incredibly more aggressive. I'd have to test ride to get a feel and see if the chain noise is tolerable, and if it also behaves like a solid workhorse.
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TheRan

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Re: 2025 Stark Varg EX and SM first look
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2025, 02:45:33 AM »

First I've heard of an SM version, I wonder why they haven't bought that to Europe.
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Re: 2025 Stark Varg EX and SM first look
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2025, 03:54:39 AM »

How's this sound?
StartVarg buy Energica, and get the tech from them.
NOW they have the 360 volt package, controller, motor,EVERYTHING they need at their fingertips.
Energica supplies a high end street vehicle, they have an entry level street vehicle, but BOTH use similar motor AND battery tech.
With Stark Vargs name, and tech, AND Energica's premium tech AND knowhow.
They could make high end dirt bikes,  High end mid level entry bikes, for people who don't need 200 HP monsters on the road and want something smaller, less intimidating.  High end race bikes, High end road bikes.  they could dominate everything, and their specs are so close already, the tech could easily be transferred between the bikes.

This could be a match made in heaven.

Aaron
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TheRan

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Re: 2025 Stark Varg EX and SM first look
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2025, 04:24:31 AM »

I don't see any reason why they'd need anything from Energica. All they'd need to do is put the Varg drivetrain in a street frame and that's hardly difficult, maybe double up the battery capacity.
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Re: 2025 Stark Varg EX and SM first look
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2025, 07:36:29 PM »

Stupid? but hey it's me  8)

why is the seat on the thing flat as a board?  Id think you'd want something to keep you from sliding right off on an acceleration?

Aaron
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Fran K

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Re: 2025 Stark Varg EX and SM first look
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2025, 10:23:00 PM »

The picture at the top of the page in the link on post 1 is intended to be riden by an athlete in the standing position.  There may be optional or accessory seats (in the future?), BMW has one for the ce04 and CanAm has some choices in build your own.
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Re: 2025 Stark Varg EX and SM first look
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2025, 02:51:14 AM »

It's a motocross bike, it's intended for you to easily be able to slide forward and back on the seat. That's why it's so long despite not being intended to carry a pillion. Some motocross riders end up recovering their seat with one that's more grippy, usually with little bumps towards the rear to provide traction, or having grippier pants than what you'd wear for the road. Depending on whether the SM is going to be road legal or intended to be a race bike they might switch to a seat with a bit of a butt divot.
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