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[Specter]

stonewolf, ok so you give them the midrange bike, then they'll complain they want more power and want to hack it to unset the flag so it will go faster.  it's a no win there really.

As for California and gas prices, that is a very strong possibiity, but also as strong is, they can't keep their lights on as it is in the summer, so i can see all sorts of tou schenanegins  (i know i killed the spelling). and special rates for charging et etc. so it will cost just as much or more. Get your own home, put panels on it and do it yourself is about the only way,  spend the extra 5k get a stand alone inverter that does not need to see the grid to run.  Get a good one like an outback or schneider/xantrax that has a big beefy transformer in it,  this little scr shit like the solark can  not handle big loads or a large phase unbalance.

while they may create the need and demand for electric vehicles, they do not have the capability to charge them, and that is only going to get worse as they decom more and more plants.

aaron

[princec]

Well, I think Zero have basically figured out this midrange with the SR/F/S bikes. They go bonkers fast, they don't weigh any more than a normal bike, they do 120 miles or so on a charge, etc. - the only issue is they cost exactly twice what they're worth. So it's not the technology itself that's the stumbling block, it's the price.

Cas

[T.S. Zarathustra]

Well, I think Zero have basically figured out this midrange with the SR/F/S bikes. They go bonkers fast, they don't weigh any more than a normal bike, they do 120 miles or so on a charge, etc. - the only issue is they cost exactly twice what they're worth. So it's not the technology itself that's the stumbling block, it's the price.

Cas

Zero had a good mid range bike in the Gen2. I want a Gen2-B. FX is almost mid range by now. Add 30% to the battery (including voltage) and it's in the mid range,,, and becomes compatible with the Ultraviolette that this thread was started with. Gen3 is interesting on its own but too expensive and heavy for what it is.

[princec]

215kg isn't that heavy in the grand scheme of things... but yes, too expensive for sure, especially given its fairly mediocre build quality and attention to detail.

I would have bought a gen2 bike back in the day when I first became aware of Zero except:
1. Traction control is essential on EV bikes
2. Persistent and common failure of the OBC (and lack of built in type 2 socket)
3. Belt change fiasco

Cas