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[Richard230]

I would love to see the duplicate analog speedometer used as a power gauge that displayed both propulsion power and regen power in kW.  Seeing that information would really help your riding range as it would give you an idea how much power you were consuming from your battery pack in real time. Plus, those big numbers on the gauge would look pretty cool.   

[trikester]

That's exactly what I would like also!

[Doctorbass]

I'll add my 2 cents here by agreeing that we need much more real time data while riding and of course a data logger is also great for analysis after the ride.

If I couldn't have it all i would love to just have a bi-directional gauge that would tell me when current is flowing out of the battery and when it's flowing back in, from regen. In dirt riding, in ECO mode, I'm going back and forth between those two conditions and would like to know what's happening.

The Cycle Analyst is not  a datalogger, it's a main display. The datalogger is an option you can connect to it.

But the cycle analyst HAVE all teh info you talk about. It indicate the current direction when you regen or run the motor. It display amp, power, temp, voltage, kmh, wh/km. Ah,  total distance, min Amp, Max amp, min Volt, etc... ALL IN REAL TIME and.. it work from any voltage between 12 and 100V and can take up to 650v isolation when used with an external Voltage sensing device.

Believe me... Every ride i go, i APPRECIATE ALOT my cycle analyst !

I can see the consumed Ah or Watt-hour so i know exactly how much energy i still have in the battery.

It's like the zero could ONLY have this display and it would be more than enough.

Here is few of  the info it can display in real time:













Doc

[protomech]

Doc,

Where is it picking up the temperature from?

[Doctorbass]

Doc,

Where is it picking up the temperature from?

It can be from anywhere .. The agni motor on the zero 2011 have one temp sensor near the brush wich is the warmer part. But i could install it on tghe controller or battery etc. You can connect a LM35 temperature sensor IC or 10K NTC thermistor as temperature probe.


And.. as for any of the measured parameters, you can set an alarm that cut the throttle or make other option like making the display to flash when an alarm is trigged.

min batt volt, high temp, SOC of teh battery etc .. all can trigger the alarm.
Doc

[Larry295]

DoctorBass, why is your speedo only going to 120, when mine is 160???
I know you are in km, and I am in miles, but then it makes even less sense!!?

[Richard230]

DoctorBass, why is your speedo only going to 120, when mine is 160???
I know you are in km, and I am in miles, but then it makes even less sense!!?

My 2012 Zero S analog speedometer tops out at 120 mph, also.

[Larry295]

mine tops out at 160mph which makes it unusable since when you're doing 30-40mph, the needle barely moves from 0. It stays always at the bottom....

[protomech]

Odd. My 2012 S analog speedometer tops out at 160 (buttons switches between MPH and KPH, neither is printed on the meter).

[Richard230]

I just checked my analog speedometer again. It does top out at 120 mph and there is no corresponding series on numbers for km per hour as many other motorcycles have. Perhaps when the mph/kph button is pushed, it also reverts to kph. ( I haven't tried that to see if the analog speedometer changes its tune, in addition to the digital speedometer.) If that is the case, then a 160 reading might be needed if you got the bike up to 99 mph.  Maybe Zero discovered that 120 kph was only 75 mph and realized that the speedometer needed to be updated for the faster 2012 models that would be sold in countries using the metric system.  Or......maybe they got a deal on 160 mph analog speedometers.   

[rotoiti]

Mine goes up to 160 units (no mph/kph marks). The switch changes to kilometers per hour and the needle will display kph instead of mph.

[protomech]

In 75 years, this will be why Richard230's Zero is worth 10x any other Zero when it goes on the block at the Barrett-Jackson car/bike/aircraft/spacecraft auction.

[ColoPaul]

In 75 years, this will be why Richard230's Zero is worth 10x any other Zero when it goes on the block at the Barrett-Jackson car/bike/aircraft/spacecraft auction.

True!

Mine goes to 160.  It would be way more usable if it only went to 120.   Zero ought to offer a 120 speedo in their accessories store. 

[Richard230]

In 75 years, this will be why Richard230's Zero is worth 10x any other Zero when it goes on the block at the Barrett-Jackson car/bike/aircraft/spacecraft auction.

Too bad I won't be around to see that happen.  I'll be happy if my Zero keeps running for the next 3 or 4 years, until the next great thing comes out.  

I have owned a lot of motorcycles that are now minor classics and I never kept a one of them.  Some of the bikes I have owned include a 1962 Vespa 125, 1963 Yamaha YD3, a 1958 Allstate (Puch)125, a 1963 Lambrettta 150 LI, a 1964 Honda CB305, a 1966 Suzuki B-100P, a 1968 Yamaha YA-6, a 1969 Garelli 125, a 1969 Yamaha YR2-C, a 1970 Honda CB175-K4, a 1971 Triumph T-120R Bonneville, a 1973 Yamaha RD350, a 1975 Honda CB400F, a 1977 Honda CB550K, a 1978 Yamaha SR500F, a 1983 Kawasaki KZ750-L3, a 1985 Kawasaki EX305-B1, a 1985 BMW R80, a 1986 Honda VFR700FII, a 1987 Yamaha SRX250TC, a 1990 Suzuki 500EL, a 1991 BMW K100RS-4V, a 1984 Honda CB700SC, a 1982 BMW R65LS, and on and on.  They just come and go and I never really wanted to keep any of my motorcycles - until years after I sold them.  

[Richard230]

I went for a ride today and converted to the metric system for a short distance. My both my digital and analog speedometers also converted, so now I see why the change was made to an analog speedometer that reads up to 160.  The 2012 Zero S will exceed 120 kph, so it appears that the revised speedometer is necessary when used in more progressive countries that are on the metric system, instead of the English system of measurement.