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[Brammofan]

http://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/2012/09/22/zero-recalls-electric-bikes-that-may-stall-in-traffic/

Oh my god... I've been reading the comments on that article and can feel my IQ dropping by the second.  Here's a particularly interesting one:

5:37 pm September 22, 2012
freecheese wrote :
I can imagine the “Men” who ride these things. They are college liberal arts student lefties . They shave their legs and armpits and have their chests waxed, They cry like a little girl when they argue with their ditzy girl friend. They don’t know how to change a flat tire or drive a stick shift, and think they are victims.
They would be horrified if somebody cranked up a Harley next to them. In other words, pussies.

I think we might have to change the name of the forum to electricmotorcyclesareforpussies.com.

People are so filled with hate and ignorance sometimes.

[Richard230]

Well, I certainly don't fit that description.  The last computer I tried to program used punch cards (which I wasn't very good at punching), was made by IBM and was located in a room the size of a lecture hall.  I think it also used vacuum tubes.     Plus, I also have trouble programming my VCR and I haven't figured out how to use my cell phone to actually make a phone call.  I have also been riding IC motorcycles for over 50 years and have spun my share of wrenches to keep them running. But, I do like to ride my Zero around town and not have little children cover their ears as I pass by.

[ZeroSinMA]

http://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/2012/09/22/zero-recalls-electric-bikes-that-may-stall-in-traffic/

Oh my god... I've been reading the comments on that article and can feel my IQ dropping by the second.  Here's a particularly interesting one:

5:37 pm September 22, 2012
freecheese wrote :
I can imagine the “Men” who ride these things. They are college liberal arts student lefties . They shave their legs and armpits and have their chests waxed, They cry like a little girl when they argue with their ditzy girl friend. They don’t know how to change a flat tire or drive a stick shift, and think they are victims.
They would be horrified if somebody cranked up a Harley next to them. In other words, pussies.

I think we might have to change the name of the forum to electricmotorcyclesareforpussies.com.

People are so filled with hate and ignorance sometimes.

If you wish to lose all hope for humanity read the comments on any YouTube video.

[trikester]

Hmmm....... I guess my current eighteen motorcycles don't count. Two of them are dual-sport (street legal) trikes (2 wheels in front) that I built myself (hence the user name "Trikester"). See photo. I have also made original modifications to my two ZERO motorcycles.

We need to not waste any of our life on these "it's my way or it's no good" goofballs. Oops - I just did. My bad, my bad.

Trikester

[Richard230]

You certainly do love your trikes, Trikester.   

[BSDThw]

How Cool are this Trikes!

I never saw this type before, trikes I saw always had 1 front and 2 rear wheels.

Trikester: how does the steering works? Is the complete frame twisting or is there a kind of  joint/pivot in this "frame". (sorry I am not sure if the words really fits, hope you understand what I mean)

[firepower]

Trikster, those front wheel hubs look larg, what kind of hubs are used ?

[kingcharles]

Trikster, those front wheel hubs look larg, what kind of hubs are used ?

They look like drum brakes to me

[trikester]

The motorcycle body, engine, and rear end is the Yamaha TW200.

Those things that look like drum brakes are adapters that I machined. I used the "obsolete" Yamaha TW200 drum brake hubs (still available) and replaced the brake drum with my adapter. The front end is the front of a YFZ 450 ATV frame, suspension, steering, and hubs with the hydraulic disk brakes. My adapter allowed me to use the stock ATV hubs with the stock TW200 front wheels. In other words, I mounted motorcycle wheels on ATV hubs. By doing that, I didn't have to design my own disk brakes, I could use the stock ATV setup.

The best way a trike should be built is with both wheels in front. If your are lifting a wheel and you hit the brakes it will bring the wheel down. If you do that on a trike with the two wheels in back it will send you right over.  Plus, riding dirt, you can dab a foot without running over your foot.  If the original ATC's had been built this way they would probably still be on the market. I won't ride a trike with two wheels in back.

Since I started with a street legal dual-sport motorcycle the trike is also street legal. I've attached a photo of it in the Maze District of Canyonlands National Park, Utah. No ATV's or other non-street legal bikes are allowed in there. 

BTW - I also own and ride a CanAm Spyder (high performance trike with two wheels in front).

Trikester

[ZeroSinMA]

http://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/2012/09/22/zero-recalls-electric-bikes-that-may-stall-in-traffic/

Oh my god... I've been reading the comments on that article and can feel my IQ dropping by the second.  Here's a particularly interesting one:

5:37 pm September 22, 2012
freecheese wrote :
I can imagine the “Men” who ride these things. They are college liberal arts student lefties . They shave their legs and armpits and have their chests waxed, They cry like a little girl when they argue with their ditzy girl friend. They don’t know how to change a flat tire or drive a stick shift, and think they are victims.
They would be horrified if somebody cranked up a Harley next to them. In other words, pussies.

I think we might have to change the name of the forum to electricmotorcyclesareforpussies.com.

People are so filled with hate and ignorance sometimes.

Posted two comments on the story that politely corrected inaccurate statements about Zero and the bikes. The moderater deleted them. This one was added.

"This may cook Zero’s goose. They have had numerous problems or glitches. In short, these bikes are not dependable. While under warranty, Z foots the bill, so they are losing money left and right. As soon as the bikes are off warranty and break down, the expense to get them running again will be very high for the owner. Thus, while it may seem like these bikes would save money with no filters, oil, valves, etc. they more than make up with maintenance costs for their solftware glitches, burned out motors, unbalanced cells, etc."

Obviously Murdoch's WSJ has an agenda. The only coverage Zero gets is of a recall. Comments that correct anti-Zero comments are deleted and new bogus pile-on Zero comments multiply.

To Murdock's paper electric Vehicles = lefty, liberal, big government, anti-oil company

Never mind that it was Harley that received a $2.3 billion bailout from the Feds during the recession not Zero. Zero managed through it with private funding.

Welcome to the US media propaganda machine. Pathetic.

[cirrus pete]

http://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/2012/09/22/zero-recalls-electric-bikes-that-may-stall-in-traffic/

Obviously Murdoch's WSJ has an agenda. The only coverage Zero gets is of a recall. Comments that correct anti-Zero comments are deleted and new bogus pile-on Zero comments multiply.

To Murdock's paper electric Vehicles = lefty, liberal, big government, anti-oil company

Never mind that it was Harley that received a $2.3 billion bailout from the Feds during the recession not Zero. Zero managed through it with private funding.

Welcome to the US media propaganda machine. Pathetic.

I'm not sure it is that bad, we just tend to remember the negative more than the positive. the same reporter had written a pretty enthusiastic review of the DS not long ago. Probably why he was even aware of the recall.

[ZeroSinMA]

At 950 miles had my first cutout last week. Have not had a chance to ride since.

Most inconvenient as I was at the front of the center lane of a 3 lane city street in rush hour. The light changed and I turned the throttle and then nothing.

Awkward.

Had to walk the bike in front of traffic to the right, reboot and try again. Then okay all the way home.

Cool day. No rain. Guess the "glitch" finally caught up with me.

Waiting for the dealer to confirm a recall maintenance date.

[protomech]

At 950 miles had my first cutout last week. Have not had a chance to ride since.

I guess that makes everyone then.

Got my recall letter today. Hopefully Zero can get everyone upgraded in short order.

[ZeroSinMA]

At 950 miles had my first cutout last week. Have not had a chance to ride since.

I guess that makes everyone then.

Got my recall letter today. Hopefully Zero can get everyone upgraded in short order.

Dealer's coming to pick it up in a few days and perform all of the recall work then drop it off. Can't complain about the service. Can't really complain about one 30 second interruption in approx. 100 hours of riding both the 2011 and 2012, either.

[oobflyer]

Oh my god... I've been reading the comments on that article...

Brammofan - you inspired me to go to that blog report and make my own post:

I have ridden nearly 20,000 miles on electricity. I have ridden hundreds of thousands miles on gas-powered bikes. I therefore declare myself to be more knowledgeable about electric vs. gas bikes than most everyone that has posted here. Gas bikes are fun. Electric bikes are fun. There are pros and cons. If you can't have both, make a list and decide which one is for you. After you decide on one or the other it is not necessary to vilify the one you didn't choose. Grow up a bit.

What do you think - too condescending?