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nigezero

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Re: DS Tyres
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2015, 07:12:23 AM »

Interesting point Kensiko grip losses versus better rolling resistance gains. So far, I think the rolling resistance gains (compared a chunkier off road tyre) is winning.

On another note I spent the last few weeks playing with suspension settings after noticing a subtle but persistent "patter" in the front end. I tried a series of progressive adjustments but everything just made it worse.Compression, rebound, tyre pressures in a myriad of combinations. In frustration I went back to the shop today and we found two things.

1. The wheel balance was slightly out.
2. The tyre was slightly elliptical. They reseated it three times and still couldnt get it to sit right on the rim and are going to talk with Michelin.

Compounding the problem was the "atrocious stiction" in the front forks, as they described it. I'm well aware of this and was hoping things would free up with use but after almost 5k kms no change. The stiction means that the damping is not right because it tends to feel better when it's compensating for the stiction. The Youtube video on the FastAce fork rebuild looks like a hornets nest to me. Anyone have a clue what the stock fork oil weight might be?
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Re: DS Tyres
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2015, 01:31:15 PM »

I don't like the MX tyres on my DS. These are good on off road tracks but I ride for 99% on asphalt. The Anakees are a good option. Hopefully, the stock tyres will be worn soon
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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2015, 01:30:24 AM »

My mileage is now 4,500 kms and my MT 60 rear tyre is almost gone. I thought that the super soft Continental SportAttack 2 on my previous KTM 990 SMT worn so fast (about 4000 kms) but that these MT 60s don't last so long disappoints me.
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Re: DS Tyres
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2015, 03:54:18 AM »

Ik got my Annees3 today! Unfortunately, the temps dropped seriously here in Holland so a good comparison is not possible.
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Re: DS Tyres
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2015, 02:37:14 AM »

So Lecram,
Do you have your Anakees already fitted?
I will have mine fitted by the end of the month by Motoport Amsterdam. They called today that the types are delivered.
If you have rode them already, i'm curious about your findings... Do they make less noise compared to the nubbies?

Greetings, buutvrij
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Re: DS Tyres
« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2015, 04:42:48 AM »

Better late than never, I guess... :)

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Anyone have a clue what the stock fork oil weight might be?
My guess is 10W - it's a lot thicker than the 3W I put in.  This FastAce thread has more info:

http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=4929.msg33616#msg33616

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The Youtube video on the FastAce fork rebuild looks like a hornets nest to me.
+1 -  but to change the oil, you really only need to loosen the caps, then remove/invert the legs to drain the oil out.  It's still a PITA, but there doesn't seem to be any good places for drain plugs.

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Compounding the problem was the "atrocious stiction" in the front forks
Yes, it's pretty severe.  I treated my slider surfaces twice with Tri-Flow Teflon spray lube after the oil change, and it made a lasting difference in plushness and resistance to deflection.  I can now easily pump the forks about 4" without using the front brake, whereas my FX's forks (stock oil, no Teflon) move about 2" and then stick.

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Re: DS Tyres
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2015, 01:13:23 AM »

So, got my Anakees III fitted yesterday, and drove some 70 km's with them.  First impression:

The bike feels quicker in corners and some faster steering. The improvement is definitely there, but not world changing  :D.  They make less noise as well, which is great, due to the fact that the nubbies made a slightly irritating jet-kind of sound at higher speeds. I like the jet-kind of sound, but not when it's to loud (in my opinion). I have an open helmet.

I didn't have the opportunity to do some serious 'testing' yet, but i think they are worth the buck's  (euro's)
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Re: DS Tyres
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2017, 01:14:40 AM »

I tried to order some Anakee 3's this week only to find they don't make them in the size my 2014 DS requires. At least they're not available in the UK.

Has anyone any experience of road pilot 4's on a DS? I don't know if those tubeless tyres will fit on the spoked wheels I've got.

Any more recommendations would be gratefully received. I don't plan to do any off road riding with the next set. Grip on wet and cold tarmac is my top priority.
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Re: DS Tyres
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2017, 07:42:35 AM »

For my FX that almost never sees dirt I was looking at Avons, either Trailriders or Roadriders. There aren't a lot of tires that aren't full on knobbies in the right sizes.

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Re: DS Tyres
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2017, 10:48:15 PM »

Thanks clay. I'll let you all know what I go for.
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