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KrazyEd

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Re: New Belt
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2019, 03:14:25 AM »

I will chime in with my usual suggestion for Zero Parts
Harlan at Hollywood Electrics. Not necessarily the best price
but, if it can be had, he should be able to get it for you
BTW, I purchased the high speed gearing set up for my 2016 SR
through him not long ago showing discontinued on Zero site.
If I recall, it wasn't a whole lot more than you posted for just a belt

Harlan Flagg
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Re: New Belt
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2019, 03:39:12 AM »

I am in Europe, and I own two zeros - a Zero XU 2012 and a FXS 2017. I wanted to stock a belt for the XU, but only if it is cheap (20 $), so probable adaptable part. The help I would need is a "compatible" reference in a more available brand - i dont know anything to belts.

The cheapest Zero belt that I have ever purchased was the one that I bought for my 2012 S.  It sold for $80 USD.  As the years rolled by, the price creeped up, until the last replacement belt that I bought for my 2018 S, sold for $120. I can imagine that a belt shipped to the EU from the U.S. would sell for more than that after custom fees and EU taxes. 

BMW rubber belts for their F800GT go for around $500 and can not be sourced from any other supplier (yet).  MY 1985 Kawasaki EX305 had a rubber drive belt made by the Japanese firm "Bando" (what a great name  ::)  ). Even that belt, way back then, sold for more than $20.  So good luck with your quest for a cheap drive belt.  ???
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Re: New Belt
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2019, 11:59:08 AM »

I replaced it on a Zero S and only paid 20 $ at that time...
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Re: New Belt
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2019, 05:26:47 PM »

Did way too much belt research.........
 If my belt breaks again and it comes as a surprise I might try a Continental Falcon Pd belt of the appropriate spec.


Me too & what I found was no one offers an 8mm pitch 220tooth belt that's 14mm wide.

You would have to buy a wider belt & cut it to 14mm.
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Re: New Belt
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2019, 05:32:02 PM »

Has anyone tried the Lunacycle belt/sheaves upgrade?

      https://lunacycle.com/zero-motorcycle-wide-belt-sprocket-conversion-kit/
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Re: New Belt
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2019, 10:37:29 PM »

Has anyone tried the Lunacycle belt/sheaves upgrade?

      https://lunacycle.com/zero-motorcycle-wide-belt-sprocket-conversion-kit/

I've got it. Good quality, solid. Haven't installed it yet.  I'm waiting till I get rear shock replacement, will do both at the same time.
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Re: New Belt
« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2019, 10:57:05 PM »

Did way too much belt research.........
 If my belt breaks again and it comes as a surprise I might try a Continental Falcon Pd belt of the appropriate spec.


Me too & what I found was no one offers an 8mm pitch 220tooth belt that's 14mm wide.

You would have to buy a wider belt & cut it to 14mm.

I ran the 12mm one for a bit. Seemed fine. Broke after a while, like the standard belts do. Probably more suitable for an S/DS than a SR/DSR.  Probably more suitable for gentle motorcyclists who ride on smooth roads than twitchy motorcyclists torquing up potholed roads.

The one I ran:

https://texasbelting.com/products/gates-8mgt-1760-12

Similar price, cheaper shipping, looks like the same thing:

https://www.royalsupply.com/store/pc/Gates-8MGT-1760-12-Poly-Chain-GT-Carbon-Synchronous-Belt-9274-0220-p16562.htm

Half the price of the Zero version. I'm guessing it's 6/7ths the breaking strength.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2019, 11:07:38 PM by togo »
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Re: New Belt
« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2019, 12:09:24 AM »

Thanks, this is really helpful.
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Re: New Belt
« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2019, 11:05:36 AM »

Hey guys, still here. I've been talking to manufacturers in my spare time. One supplier I talked to is talking to the major technical representatives and answering the big questions..
There may even be a stronger topology to the carbon tensile cords/nylonish clothish backing and tooth faces. I am testing fiberglass, polyester,  kevlar (aramid), and HYBRID tensile corded emergency belts made in polyurethane (toughest?), EPDM (new school), nitrile, neoprene (old school), nylon (quiet) backing/teeth. polypropylene?
Belts are typically ordered in very wide sleeves and cut to width. This seems doable with a homemade jig (I may have linked the video of this already).

I plan on doing an emergency belt bulk order, at much cheaper prices than the first time around. I'm still testing samples now. I found a supplier that is able to do a bulk order in the scale we need of the most likely winner. If you are interested please reply and leave me a method to contact you (like your messages!) or PM me.

Sorry, I've only had time to work on this super late and removing a swingarm sucks. At least my belt breaking prematurely alerted me to the fact I have a bad swingarm bearing. I'll leave that to a real mechanic.

More info for you, fellow nerds:
https://assets.gates.com/content/dam/pdf-archive/GatesMectrol_Belt_Pulley_Catalog.pdf
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Re: New Belt
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2019, 05:04:52 AM »

Any news, Talon?
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Re: New Belt
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2019, 07:12:24 AM »

Sorry for the crazy delay.. working through a move and prospective change of employment. I need to replace my swingarm bearings as my left has gotten "notchy" at 9k miles. I also am having trouble with my belt tension changing intermittently by over 25kg in the same spot (on belt AND pulley and pulley angle).. (tested with everything so well controlled--ugh) with the Zero official belt. I'm scratching my head on this, perhaps my measurement tools are the culprit?
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