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[Richard230]

A long article in my newspaper, written by Jane Margolies and published by the NY Times, mentions that the cost of an L2 charging facility can be up to $7,000 to install. A fast charger can cost as much as $175,000 each. There is also mention that Walmart will be installing their own name-brand chargers at many of their stores and plan to make a profit off of their use. The article goes on to say: "For several years, Walmart has worked with Electrify America, a division of Volkswagen, and now has Electrify America stations at 280 of the retailer's stores."

[DonTom]

A long article in my newspaper, written by Jane Margolies and published by the NY Times, mentions that the cost of an L2 charging facility can be up to $7,000 to install. A fast charger can cost as much as $175,000 each. There is also mention that Walmart will be installing their own name-brand chargers at many of their stores and plan to make a profit off of their use. The article goes on to say: "For several years, Walmart has worked with Electrify America, a division of Volkswagen, and now has Electrify America stations at 280 of the retailer's stores."

I wonder if that will mean all the WallyMarts will have chargers. I find many of the Wall*Mart chargers are located everywhere except for where needed the most. Take Susanville, CA for an example. There are NO CCS chargers near there--but they have a Walmart. No chargers, of course.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[Fran K]

Pretty sure I found the article mentioned but it claims to be published in "This article was written by Jane Margolies and was published in the Globe & Mail on November 19, 2024."

If you find an article to link to that says what the mark up can be on the electricity and the loss in kwh used on the input and kw delivered on the dc fast charging I am curious.  And then what is the likelyhood of either consumer protection putting a cap on it or essentially rationing happening.

The Wal mart places I go to seem to most have optical and some have hair cut places, some have subways so don't expect all to have charging.  What is fast charging is vague in the article like how many up to how many kw.  From reading on here if your voltage is under 500 you won't get that up to number.

A swarm of electric motorcycles charging at relatively low kw charging might be kind of bad for businesws on a nice sunday.  As in the vehicles that can charge at the max that the instalation can put out and is a determining factor in the cost go away.

[Richard230]

I should have provided the article's title so that it was easier to find. The article was titled: "Electric vehicle chargers make shopping connection", with a subtitle of "EV stations unable to pay off for retailers for years, but now they do".

[Sklith]

Next it'll be, "EV stations unable to pay off for apartment complexes for years, but now they do".

Then it'll be, "EV stations unable to pay off for residential streets for years, but now they do".

I wish we had Level 2 charging stations like Europe where the cable is provided by the user, not the owner. This cuts down on installation (and vandalism) costs.

[DonTom]

I wish we had Level 2 charging stations like Europe where the cable is provided by the user, not the owner. This cuts down on installation (and vandalism) costs.

Out here, there never seems to be any vandalism on the Level Two charge stations. But a lot of it on the L3 DCFCs.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[Specter]

Those L3's can push a few hundred amps. That's a LOT of copper in those wires.  At 3 to 4 a pound, yah they'll be stealing those cables left and right.

soon I can see a charger having a plug on it, a female, and YOU bring your own cord to it, to plug your car in, so they don't have to keep replacing the stolen by crack head cords.

FWIW I looked into replacing the cord for my fast charger to get one that is a bit longer to use in my new trailer setup, umm those things are expensive!!

Aaron

[Stonewolf]

I wish we had Level 2 charging stations like Europe where the cable is provided by the user

And that's why I never use AC charging outside of my garage and campsites

[Richard230]

An article in my newspaper today, titled "EV future in flux as Trump returns to D.C.", published by the AP discusses the multi-billion dollar EV charging station plan being built as part of the Inflation Reduction Act approved in 2023. The article says that only 214 chargers are in operation in 12 states as of last year which were funded by this program. The article goes on to say that 24,800 projects are underway across the country. Trump is attempting to pause the installation of any more chargers.

The article says that a total of more than 203,000 publicly available charging ports are currently operating across the U.S. with nearly 1,000 being turned on every week, according the Federal Highway Administration.

[Specter]

You can't really blame him when you look at what those few stations they DID manage to put in ended up costing the taxpayers.  It's all part of the green new steal.  Look at ideanomics as a fine example of the caliber of 'work' that program has created.
If you really want to fuck something up and make it stupid expensive, let the government do it.

What they really need to do is start putting chargers in more rural areas.  In town there are a bunch of them, which yah I get it but what about when you are NOT in town, or trying to make it back to town, then is when it gets tricky at times.  Tesla is doing a good job though of getting the chargers out and at least from what I have seen Tesla's chargers for the most part, work.  So many of the other stations are OOC it's sad really.  Now if we could get tesla to start opening his up to everyone then we'd be onto something.  Or, every highway has rest areas, let the DOT put some chargers in them and hope the crack heads don't steal the cables.

what Id really like to see is a list of how many chargers are installed .vs. how many are still working properly?  Another part of the problem is people are raping you on repair parts for these things,  it's really very similar to a forktruck charger on the power block side TBH but the price you'll pay per module, oh it's for cars, lets triple the price. 

At least in florida here, FPL has their Evolution stations and when they go down, they seem to be doing a decent job getting them back on line fairly fast.  I tested one a month ago and it was Tango Uniform, then checked it a few weeks later and they had it fixed.  They charge 30 cents a kilowatt hour but that's not bad really to charge up in 30 minutes.

Aaron